On our latest episode of Going Rogue with Lara Logan, Lara Logan opens the conversation with filmmaker Mike Smith about the overwhelming response to ‘Out Of Shadows’ and why the subject matter refuses to fade away.
Despite controversy and attempts to discredit it, Out Of Shadows has become one of the most viewed independent documentaries in the world, translated into countless languages and watched by millions across continents. Its reach alone tells a story.
Smith says he receives thousands of messages from people who admit the material is simply “too dark” to process. The details are disturbing. The implications are heavy. Many say they want to turn it off.
But as he explains in this exchange, imagine being the child who doesn’t get to turn it off.
Imagine being the survivor. The trafficked. The groomed. The manipulated.
Lara presses into the deeper question: if it’s uncomfortable to watch, what does that say about our responsibility to confront it?
Smith’s response is clear. As ...
On our newest episode of Going Rogue with Lara Logan, Lara is joined by Mike Smith, former Hollywood stuntman and action director, and the filmmaker behind the documentaries “Out Of Shadows” and “Into The Light.”
During the conversation, Smith revisits a clip from “Out Of Shadows” featuring Boone Cutler, U.S. Army veteran and information warfare commentator.
In the clip, Cutler explains how polarization can become a manufactured sense of life and death. When issues are framed emotionally instead of rationally, critical thinking can shut down. Fear replaces logic. Once someone believes a situation threatens their survival, their family, or their country, they instinctively defend that belief, even when confronted with evidence.
Using the analogy of a child afraid of a monster in the closet, Cutler argues that if you convince people there is a “boogeyman,” emotion overrides reason.
The discussion centers on media narratives, perception, and how polarization shapes public debate.
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CENSORSHIP, VIRAL REACH & THE POWER OF DISTRIBUTION
Lara Logan is joined by Mike Smith, former Hollywood stuntman, action director, and filmmaker behind the documentaries “Out Of Shadows” and “Into The Light.”
After a 30-year career working at the highest levels of Hollywood, Smith describes how he says he was unaware of much of the darker reality he later came to question. When “Out Of Shadows” was released, it was uploaded for free and rapidly spread across the world — translated into 24 languages and reaching over 100 million views in its first 10 months while metrics were still being tracked.
Smith recounts being removed from multiple major platforms and says that even today certain links connected to the film remain difficult to share. Despite that, five years later, the film recently surpassed 22 million views on X alone.
The discussion centers on independent distribution, platform moderation, and how certain stories continue to circulate despite attempts to restrict them.
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PETER MCILVENNA: How Marxists are Working with Political Islam to Take Down America | Ep 59 | Going Rogue with Lara Logan
WATCH NEW EPISODE: https://bit.ly/goingrogue-ep59
Peter McIlveen, a UK-based journalist, researcher and host of the “Hearts of Oak” podcast, joins Lara to discuss the rise of political Islam and mass immigration in Britain, and its parallels in the United States. The conversation examines the scale and influence of the halal food industry, the role of the leftist-Islamist-globalist alliance, the suppression of free speech in Europe, and the disturbing issue of organized rape gangs targeting young girls.
00:00:00 Christianity vs. Islam: Contrasting Worldviews
00:00:51 Introduction to Peter McIlveen & Framing the Issue
00:04:13 Manipulation, Division, and the Politics of Islam
00:10:32 The Halal Food Industry and Economic Jihad
00:25:05 Mass Immigration, Identity, and Political Change in the UK
00:36:25 UK Legal and Social Collapse: Polygamy, Open Borders, and Grooming Gangs
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